1403 Garden Glendale Rancho
Jay Geisenheimer is the consummate real estate professional. She has her finger on the pulse of the real estate market able to pull current market facts and figures easily into the conversation without overwhelming the client. If you want to sell your home in the Burbank/Glendale Rancho and the surrounding adjacent areas, then you should get in touch with Jay. She brings her marketing expertise to the table realized with first-class photography and digital image presence. When my wife and I saw the online images of our home that Jay and her crack team put together we were blown away. The images captured the true essence of our home and which really separated our home from others on the market. We had immediate multiple offers within 24hrs of initial viewings. WOW!! Jay also expertly guided my wife and I through all aspects of the sale process once we accepted the buyers offer. She left no detail to chance and really made us feel like we have a true pro on our team. If you are looking for someone who knows what they are doing and you want to sell your home, then you should give Jay a call.
Sarah Spangler and Neil Spangler
We want to tell you what a fantastic experience we had with Jay Geisenheimer. Firstly she came over to our unit while we were refurbishing it. Jay had so many good ideas for us which we diligently followed and boy did her ideas pay off. We expedited every idea and nuance all the way to staging with her stager. We put the townhouse on the market Thanksgiving and it sold right away and closed quickly. We are very happy with our buyer who loves the unit and appreciates all that we did and that was important to us. Jays presentation of our property was outstanding as well. We highly recommend Jay as she is creative, talented and very professional. Thank you JAY!
Donna and Coral - 113 S Kenneth, Burbank
My house just closed escrow. I wanted to take this opportunity to highly commend Jay Geisenheimer who was the agent who listed my house. She was very professional and helpful in listing and selling my house. She also brought a buyer who was perfect for this house. She took all my needs into consideration, communicated with me regularly and represented both my interests and the buyers interests in a competent and efficient manner.
She developed an excellent marketing plan including pictures and a video which presented the house in a manner which well substituted for the open house which was not possible due to Covid.
All in all from listing to closing, it was a very pleasant and successful experience working with Jay.
I knew Jay was the only Realtor for my home. I have seen her over the years put a sign in the ground and then Quickly remove the sign. She sells properties that fast. And she did that for me!! We put the house on the market at 2PM and at 3PM we received our first of several offers. And she accomplishes this with her creativity, her staff, and marketing knowledge! Jay recommended we do some work and she supplied the workers and their prices were fair. And she was right! The property looked amazing and sold right away for way over asking. Jay was available, fun and professional. Everyone should know of her talent and marketing whiz when she prepares her properties for market. My husband and i cannot recommend Jay enough!
Liz Murphy Peutet and Rodney Peutet
I met Jay Geisenheimer in the most improbable way. On a trail ride. But, what better way to meet someone who is going to find the perfect property in the equestrian area of Burbank/Glendale called the Rancho. Jay is the most knowledgeable person when it comes to horse property. I knew right away that I was in good hands. She found me a great property and was the professional and smart when it came to knowing property value, negotiating price and handling details.
A few years after that purchase my needs changed and I went to Jay who, once again, found the perfect home. She successfully guided me on structuring my offer in the highly competitive market in the Rancho. She then found the perfect tenants to lease the first property. I could not have done any of this without her wisdom and skill.
If you are looking for property I suggest you “Giddy-Up” on over to Jay! There is no better Realtor for the Rancho!
Martha - 1728 Stanton and 1505 Riverside Dr Rancho.
You are an AMAZING Realtor. In 2 weeks you listed my home, pulled up the carpets and refinished the floors, painted the interior, pruned the tree and added new lawn and clean and made ready our barn. Then You videographed the property AND sold it in 2 days!! To a horse person for over asking! You are an amazing Realtor and no one else in the Rancho can do what you do!!!
Dr Rafizadeh and Judge Skeba
Amelia and I thought it would be prudent to write a letter to your company Rodeo Realty telling you what a fabulous job Jay Geisenheimer did selling our home. This is our second time we've had the pleasure working with Jay, once back in 2012 when she sold us our first home on Parkside and just recently when she sold it at above asking. I'll let the attached letter speak for itself but I would like to add something.
I come from a family with deep roots in real estate. We own and manage an investment company, Goldman Property Group. As a result there is no shortage of opinions when it comes to how to transact a sale or purchase and it is in our nature to share details of ongoing transactions including the one surrounding my personal home with each other. My nature is to be fairly hands on at work but when it came to this sale I wanted to be hands off. That meant I was more of a Monday night quarterback if you know what I mean and Jay handled basically everything. That's a tall order to fill but when it comes down to it, Jay not only impressed me, but she impressed my two business partners also. Usually when arm chair quarterbacking one looks back and says XYZ could have been done differently and we do it with the benefit of hindsight. I can't say that in my experiences with Jay. She made all the right moves. She is exceptional and my wife and I are so fortune to have had her help.
We used Jay Geisenheimer’s service to rent our house out this summer. Jay is wonderful! She helped with suggestions on how to stage the house down to recommending an outstanding service to repair our AC unit. She was also flexible with our crazy move schedule and adapting extremely well when our move date changed. When the house finally came on the market, it was rented in just a few days under Jay’s professional care. The tenants Jay found were perfect for our house and we couldn’t be happier with the outcome.
Jay IS the Rancho! She knows everything about the area, she is very professional and accommodating. If you want the best, Jay is the person to call for your real estate needs.
Cheryl Davis and Corey Smith
Jay is amazing. I was busy and she handled everything by herself and made great choices. She gave us more than 110%. Jay helped us sell our home while we were out of state. Jay made recommendations when we were ready to sell which turned our house into a stunningly beautiful property which not only sold for top dollars but above asking price. We believe that Jay's experience and knowledge on pricing were critical to coming in right on the mark and sweet spot to draw multiple buyers and ultimately the perfect one that loved the home and had to have it. She has her pulse on the market and we wouldn't trust anyone else. Go with Jay, you won't be disappointed.
We highly recommend Jay Geisenheimer as she is a go getter and that is what you want in the field of real estate. She will sell your house with gusto and speed. Always available by phone any time of day, this was very important to us when questions of concerns would arise on weekends or evenings. In this business every second counts. Jay goes above and beyond to make sure we were happy and that communication was clear. Without a doubt I knew Jay would get us top dollar for our house and have all of the connections for any improvements we needed to reach this goal. Jay recommended fixing quite a bit at out home such as painting the entire interior and exterior, removing carpet and replacing master bedroom floors with beautiful hardwood, landscaping and staging. ALl of this was done under Jay's watchful eye and completed at an amazing LOW price. This actually added $100,000 in value to our home. We highly recommend Jay for either buying or selling your home and all your real estate needs.
Tisha, Wes, Kieren, Caleigh, Maia, and Finn
Jay, thank you for the wonderful job you did on our home. You suggested some painting, floor redo's, removing carpet and several other things and we did exactly what you said. I guess that is why when we came on the market we had multiple offers immediately and went way over asking of $1,200,000. There are many agents but only a few are good agents and I know you are one of a few good agents and I had total confidence that you represented us so that no one could bully you into not representing us to the highest and best result. We are very happy with our closing statement. And thank you for befriending our dog PIP and taking him for walks when he needed to go. Warm regards, Howard, Kelly and Lily Zellman and PIP too.
Howard, Kelly and Lily Zellman
In 2006 I bought a home at 360 West Spazier Avenue. Jay Geisenheimer was my broker and the transaction went smoothly, without a ripple. Jay was very professional, educating me about the Burbank Rancho and generally being very helpful with all neighborhood concerns.
I owned my house for 10 years. My married son and his wife lived there for 2 years and the rest of the time it was easily rented. Unforunatley my last tenants caused a cire and I lost my house in March of 2015. In June of that year I began rebuilding and decided to sell it when it was completed.
Truly the only broker i considered was Jay. She knows her stuff! She has a good relationship with the city of Burbank, she is very thorough, and she has good suggestions and taste. There is a very good reason that she is the "Go To Gal" in the Rancho. Equestrian properties are her niche and with her gorgeous gelding, Casanova, Jay is a fixture in the Rancho.
I endorse her 1000%. Jay is a go-getter. My home was put on the market in June of 2016, and I closed escrow last Thursday, July 28th 2016. I am thrilled! And i am happy that I hired Jay to buy AND sell my home.
I have know Jay Geisenheimer for many years, but not personally. I have lived in the rancho for many years and like most people I went out on Sundays to check open houses. I met a lot of realtors and looked at a lot of houses. I always wanted to know what was selling and what was not. Jay always had time to answer questions not just about the house she was selling, but about the rancho and about Burbank. I was happy she took the time, so when i decided to sell my house she was the choice. I believe she is the best realtor for horse property buying, selling, or leasing in the rancho, because she owns a horse, she therefore understands the needs of horse owners and is the most qualified. My house was not a horse property, but I felt that her knowledge of the rancho area, because it is the equestrian area of Burbank, was the most important edge in finding a buyer for my house. She istough but fair negotiator who understand the needs of her client balnced with the wishes of the buyer, to close the deal. I would recommend Jay to anyone who is thinking about buying, sellinng, or leasing in the Rancho.
Daniel J. Wiley
We cant thank you enough for engineering this whole purchase of our property. We originally wrote the offer in March but it took 4 months to close and we feel without you this would not have been possible. Your creative point of view, your perseverence to get the job done has brought us to our new home in the Rancho where we have long desired to live. Our long time involvement with the Burbank city has now come full circle as we can live here together happily ever after! Thank you again and we are happy to be your neighbors!!
Cindy and Mike
We cant thank you enough for selling our home. We know it needed a lot but still you were able to find the right buyer for us who will love and care for this property for a long time. We were particularly impressed with your ability to come in and prepare the property for market in a short amount of time and for not a lot of money. We know this helped sell the property. I know it was not easy to handle us and the showings with our 4 children but You managed to do so and win ALL our childrens hearts! They will miss you! Again thank you soooo much!
Briana and David
We cannot thank you enough for finding us this darling home. I always do real estate myself but I would have never looked at this property. So I thank you profusely for showing us this, the first property you showed us and boom I knew it was the one. We are so happy here and I am so close to my horse at the LAEC. Some day we will have horses here too. Also thankyou for a smooth escrow as we know how difficult it was.
See you on the trails!
Kat and Bredt
Jay, We cant thank you enough for this fabulous property you found us. You showed us ONE property and this was It!!! Then upon a moments notice you presented us with all the information we needed to make a boarding and training facility in the back of the property, including a facilitator to LA and engineer and HSR information, etc. Quite impressive! Your diligence and hard work is very appreciated! Now sell our Burbank Estate!!!
Dr Richard and Jane Williams
Jay, I cant thank you enough for the fabulous job you did selling my home in the Rancho. I grew up in the Rancho and had many homes over the decades but you were my BEST Realtor! You are so easy to work with, always available, and ready to explain whatever. You have a FEEL for everything Rancho including price, presentation of property and timing. I wish you ALL the success possible as you are the best Realtor for preserving the tradition of the Rancho! I recommend you highly to everyone!
Robin and Arnie Schwartz
Robin and Arnie Schwartz
Jay we cannot thank you enough for the fantastic job you did for us. You sold the house in ONE day with 3 offers and then closed the escrow in 3 weeks. What a smooth, problem free, lovely transaction. We will never work with any other Realtor and recommend you to everyone!! Thank you so much for a job well done.
Frank and CeCe Vermeulen
I cant thank you or praise you enough for the fabulous job you did for Melody and me. You said it was a $1,000,000 home and you sold it for just that!!
After the tenant left I have to admit the place was a mess. I flew in from Kansas and you had the floor man, painter, roofer, landscaper, and housekeeper all there with their prices. And then you got it all done by yourself and for the exact quoted prices and then put the house on the market, SOLD, and closed in 59 days. What a great Realtor and talented woman you are! I do believe you are THE BEST in the Rancho!
Robert and Melody Stewart
You are BEYOND our highest expectations. We knew you were the ONLY agent for us because your marketing and open houses are so much more creative and interesting than the other Realtors. We knew only you could get us the great $785,000 price for our house.
You are an incredible negotiator and handled the escrow wonderfully. We cant thank you enough and look forward to working with you again in the not too distant future!
Apphia & Jesse Noel
Apphia & Jesse Noel
JAY, AGAIN you did it again! You did the perfect transaction for me and found me this adorable home that I love so much. Your ability to find a great home, recognize that is the home for me and then get the home for me during multiple offers and loads of competition! You are great and I cant thank you enough. You will always be my one and only REALTOR and I will recommend you endlessly! I will never use another Realtor than you!!
Thank you so much!
Jay, We are so happy in our new property. We believed in you and waited as you asked us to do for the perfect property to come up and it DID! We love our new home and look forward to many years here and with you as a neighbor! Thank you so much for all your help.
Mady and Steve
Madeline & Stephen Sunshine
We are very happy with our new home. We are certain that we would not have this lovely home without your guidance and expertise in the Burbank Rancho Community!. You listened to exactly what we wanted and showed us multiple homes in the area. When we first saw our new home, before we bought it, it was like you went out and found the perfect home for us, our horses, and our dogs. You helped us along in the process with negotiating, inspecting, moving, painting, cleaning, and gardening. Your connections and network in the Rancho is fantastic. We feel very lucky to have you as our Realtor!! We strongly encourage others to engage your services with their home searches too!!
Michael & Kayla.
Michael & Kayla Elson
When you think of qualities that you look for in a real estate agent: professional, honest, attentive, knowledgeable in their business, assertive when needed, you get that with Jay Geisenheimer. When we listed our home with Jay,
she walked us through every step. She touched on everything and advised us extremely well. Especially with price. She assisted us in pricing our home such that we actually were offered over $120,000 over asking, and we were thrilled. Jay's marketing ability is superb! over 100 hundred people attended the open house. We felt as though she had a party and we weren't invited. LOL! Jay had extra help there for security as well as a country singer. Jay's property video, flyers, and mailer are very high class and a beautiful presentation of our home. She was prompt to return any calls, texts or emails, which helped alleviate any stress and kept us up to date and in the know. We would recommend Jay to anyone thinking of listing their home. This is a results oriented, friendly, smart agent. You will not be disappointed.
Maureen & WK Stratton
Last month Jay came to my house and said "I have a buyer". I said "I'm ready". And thus began the smoothest and easiest escrow! Jay has not only been a great Realtor but she is a good friend to the Rancho too. Not only was the deal as quick and painless as a deal could be but I felt like Jay has also been a high end match maker! It was really important to us that the people who bought our house would be equestrian, but also young and fun. The buyers fit our specs perfectly and we couldn't be happier to let them take ownership of something we built and love [they are even taking over our chickens]. The Rancho is a magical and surreal place that we have been so happy to call home and seeing Jay & Casanova on the street each day is one of the things I will miss the most. I am extremely thankful for Jay putting both sides of the deal together. Definitely was a win-win-win situation and who doesn't like those!!!
I am the owner of the Lucky B Ranch, a 1/2 acre Equestrian Estate in the Glendale Rancho that was recently SOLD thanks to JAY GEISENHEIMER. I have had my ranch on and off the market for 5 years. I had used 2 different realtors but they were not able to get the job done. After a bit of research I realized the right person for the job was right under my nose. From the moment I talked with jay I knew I had finally found the right Realtor for the job. Jay immediately GOT the property and seemed to love my home as much as I did. I was not happy about having to once again have a sign in front of my ranch, open houses and people coming to look. However Jay made all these things FUN and exciting events. At each open house her beautiful horse Casanova came, and also a country singer from Rodeo Realty. At the first open house Jay had over 100 people stop by. Her depth of promotion and audience is huge! She came in, took control, and, in the end got the job done!
Having Jay Geisenheimer sell your house is like having a relative or good friend taking care of you. Jay is tireless and stops at nothing to get the job doen, and has a smile on her face and her sellers face during it all. I will never have any real estate transaction occur in my life without having Jay Geisenheimer represent me.
The Lucky B Ranch
Who do you go to when you want to buy a horse property in the Burbank Rancho? We found Jay!
For the past several years, we have been thinking about purchasing a horse property with a good barn so our beloved Palomino can eat his hay in peace. This was a daunting task because the house has to make both the human and the horse happy. We wanted to find an agent who is familiar with the neighborhood and understands the special needs and requirements of an equestrian property. The last agent we talked to never called us back. Completely frustrated, my husband said "We need an agent who knows horses!"
Two days later, Jay rode by me on her gorgeous Morgan, and we began chatting. When she told me that she was an agent, I was quite relieved that we finally found someone who could help us. Being an equestrian herself and living in the Rancho for more than 15 years, Jay's knowledge about the neighborhood was incredible and valuable; it made the entire process much less stressful. With Jay being our agent, we made an offer on a charming yellow house for our yellow horse in less than one month after we began the search in the Rancho.
Thank you so much, Jay
632 S Sparks
I am so glad I chose Jay geisenheimer as my real estate agent to help me rent my Burbank condominium. This was my first venture into renting an income property and she made it very easy for me to do so. She is well connected with a network of real estate vendors and has alot of experience to draw from.Beginning with the recommendations for preparing my condo for viewing, Jay walked me step by step through the process and tokk care of all the paperwork for me. Her presentation of my property drew multiple prospective renters. I was very impressed with the amount of time and attention that Jay gave to renting my condo. We found a well qualified tenant and Jay continued to advise and guide me as the tenant moved into the unit. Jay Geisenheimer is thorough and professional and I would recommend her as your real estate agent.
April 4, 2011
We recently decided to move out of our townhouse into a house so that our one year old son would have a yard to play in. We had seen JAY's signs and postcards for years and decided to contact her about being our agent. In the 2 months since first talking with her, she helped us stage our townhouse for sale, sold it within 2 weeks of its listing date, found us the perfect house in the Rancho, helped us negotiate a great price on the new house, assissted us in getting quotes for renovations, and wrangled concurrent condensed escrows, so that we could move directly from our townhouse into our new house! Jay was always easy to talk to, easy to get on the phone, and quickly responded to emails and texts. Jays's smiling face and friendly disposition always reassured us that we were in good hands.
Beyond the excellent work she did as our realtor, we feel that we've gained a new friend! Our son loves stopping by Jay's house to see her and pet her horse Casanova. The best way to put it is that Jay is just a good person. She's that neighbor that you love running into.
Sincerely, Jenn and Tom Corrigan
Jay Geisenheimer you are amazing!!You not only helped us find an incredible home that fit our 4 children and multiple pets, but you also managed to sell our other house above asking with multiple offers in one day!
We feel so blessed to have found Jay. She worked her magic to get us happily settled into our new house in record time and get us into the fantastic Rancho neighborhood. I feel like we landed in the neighborhood of our dreams.
Jay worked tirelessly getting us into our new home and getting issues sorted promptly and she worked right along side our lender and escrow to ensure a quick close.
Jay was always a phone call away and always available when we needed her.
When it came to selling our other home after already buying our new home Jay helped us price our home so it would sell right away and it did!!!
Thanks for everything Jay. We are honored to be your new neighbor.
Tisha & Wes Paster.
Tisha & Wes Paster
6624 Radford No Hollywood Ca 91606
Jay It was such a pleasure working with you. i want to THANK YOU again for being so terrific every step of the way. I only wish every escrow I am in would have an agent as professional and honorable as yourself.
Thank you again for an amazing simple and quick escrow and see you out there again.
Richard Ruggaber Realtor with Keller Williams
We have just completed our second property transaction with Jay Geisenheimer as our Realtor and, once again, we are completely satisfied.
Jay is one of the most knowledgeable real estate agents we have dealt with. She has sold 2 properties for us and in both cases got us what we expected. She works aggressively on behalf of her client and keeps them informed every step of the way.
She has really good property knowledge [knows how to attract buyers], good market analysis that gets you the right selling price and excellent rapport with other agents during negotiations.
We would never use anybody but Jay in any real estate transaction and would highly recommend her to anyone who is buying or selling a property.
Pamela Alch & Jack Marino
Pamela Alch & Jack Marino
Hi Jay, You did a fantastic job selling our house so we could move on with our lives. We felt stuck there and couldnt sell our house until you took over and made it happen. We are very happy in the "Bu" thanks to you. We recommend you to any seller that has a home to sell as you cut through the problems and red tape and make it happen. Thanks again, Troy and Stephanie
Hi Jay, We love our new forever home. You are a fantastic agent, smart, think outside the box and get the job done. We are so happy we switched to you as our agent. The fact that you recognized instantly that we qualified for more house was the first fantastic accomplishment. And then making an offer on a house that was not on the market was so creative and clever, and thinking outside the box!! And so we thankyou sooooo much for our forever home and our new life in the Rancho. We recommend you as an agent to anyone and everyone that is looking for a home!. Anne and Chuck, Zoe, Kingston, and Nia.
Jay, I can't thank you enuff for finding this perfect loft with a terrace and a great view. And it is a historical building with minimal property taxes. I loved the Rancho but living downtown is totally cool. thanks so much.
Dear Jay; I want to thankyou for the great work you did for me. You creatively prepared my house for market relatively inexpensively, sold my house in one month for full price, and were worth your weight in gold. getting us thru escrow . Thankyou for the good work, it was fun. The Beechers.
Dear Jay; I want to thankyou and express my extreme gratitude for your help purchasing my new home in the Rancho. I couldnot have done it with another Realtor! Your warmth, kindness, and emotional generosity were a tremendous help. Thank you again and see you on the trails . Janet
Dear Jay; I just wanted to thankyou for the outstanding service, the incredible knowledge of the area, and your fun style in helping me find a home in the Exclusive Burbank Rancho. You always say you are lucky to have a client like me so early in your career, however I say how lucky to have you as my agent. You're great! Thanks again and looking forward to riding with you. Melinda
Dear Jay: It was a pleasure working with you in our search for horse property. You not only found us the perfect ranch style home that is our "soulmate" house but you did a phenomenal job in negotiating a most unusual 180 day escrow that we needed. You achieved this by going beyond the call of duty and took the extra time to write letters on our behalf to best represent us and our needs. And your negotiations got what we needed
You were always available to us no matter what time of day, and we are very happy with the negotiations, your efficiency, and how quickly you settled the deal. We highly recommend you!
Sincerely, "happy Campers"
Dear Jay, I can't thank you enough for the wonderful job you did leasing my guest house. Your strong and efficient work ethic, as well as your tireless good nature made working with you a pleasure. You not only got the job done in a remarkable amount of time, you did find the PERFECT person for the guest house. I can, without any reservation, recommend you to anyone for all of his or her real estate needs.. Again, many many thanks, Linda
We have just listed a townhouse with Jay Geisenheimer. In 9 days she received multiple offers and we accepted an offer and jumped into escrow in 9 days of listing.the unit. In the 15 years we have lived in this complex NEVER has there been so much activity and such a quick sale as Jay has accomplished for us. And at full price too. One of the reasons we hired Jay to begin with is her ability to SEIZE an opportunity. But this time she REALLY grabbed the bull by the horns and went to town. We cannot praise her enough! In the future, we would ONLY use Jay Geisenheimer.
Dear Jay, I wanted to tell you how much we love our new home! The whole family is thrilled and I know we are going to thrive in our new place with all of the wonderful space and amenities. We made the perfect choice in having you represent us, as well as the seller, in our transaction. Experience, honesty, and integrity are necessary to close a sale for both parties, and i think you represented both sides with grace and fairness. I can't thankyou enough for always being available to answer our questions as well as providing us with excellent choices in vendors from loan officers, home inspectors, etc. And did I mention how sparkling clean our new home is? What a nice way to move in! Jay, Thank you from all of us for making our dream come true! See you soon on the trails! With much love, Tricia Gray and Dwayne Grady and family!
Tricia Gray and Dwayne Grady
Jay darling, I can't thank you enough for the wonderful work you did for me. You are so professional and calming when I was so nervous. My prior experience with a Realtor was so bad and yet you turned that all around for me and made me see one Realtor can be good. Your availability, sincerety, and good nature won me as well as my family over.I know we'll keep in touch.
Jay, You are a Goddess! I can't thank you enough for renting me this gorgeous guest house on a Bette Davis Estate. My life has completely changed, it is so much fuller. The lifestyle of the Rancho, hanging with my horse, all the new friends I have made has just given me a fuller and better life, and I can't thank you enough. Erica
Jay,, I can't believe we were in escrow for 60 plus days. It was so easy and problem free and went by so quickly. When I have real estate needs I will come knocking at your door. Thanks so much for taking such good care of my Mother Sona. And most of all thankyou for your kindness and professionalism. I recommend you completely to anyone and everyone for their real estate needs.
Jay took over our sales listing during a very difficult time. She was always positive, reassuring us that there were buyers out there, even though we were becoming more and more convinced that we were batting our heads up against a brick wall. But Jay was tenacious and reassuring and, much to our absolute astonishment, came up with a buyer who gave us a fair price. She went over and above her call of duty when it came to dealing with the closing repairs and was extremely helpful throuh the whole process. She is a fighter and will always take care of her clients and give them 100%. We have no hesitation in recommending her wholeheartedly, especially if you live in the Rancho area.
Pamela & Jack